720 Mod. . 81" at the first fret , . I wouldn't be in a rush to move the bridge or neck. Ontario County. That’s exactly where I’d put the pickup. I have a 2019 Player Series Jaguar bass body. prorecordingworkshop. $150. Joined Jan 4, 2021 Posts 74 Age 48 Location Indiana. The Warmoth neck on my Frankenstein J Bass has an overhanging fingerboard providing an extra fret. you can set an equal dimension for both bass and tremble sides on all the length, or set one dimension for the nut and one for the bridge that are the same on both tremble and bass sides or set all. Here's an thread where someone made their own body for a Musikraft neck. The fretboard/neck/body junction looks terrible. Standard Neck Pocket Depth. . Search titles only By: Search Advanced search…Posted January 19, 2005. number of strings = 4. First of all, a good clean and polish. fretboard overhang = 2 mm (equal) calculation method = 12 (equal root 2) number of frets = 15. It can be done by hand with a sharp wood chisel. Moving chords around is another good way to get to know the fretboard. Enter fretboard overhang: Enter number of musical tones per octave: Enter number of frets to calculate: This page should allow a person to quickly and accurately calculate the information needed to design the fretboard of a stringed instrument. A PRS Silver Sky has a full 22 fret neck where the neck shaft and fingerboard are flush with each other and no overhang. I agree with @BeeTL above that you'll probably get a natural 23 frets in that space, and you can do a slight fretboard overhang to give you your 24th fret. 1 mm action at 12th is a bit high. However, if you want to use a 24. Many times it’s necessary to change slightly the angle of a bolt-on neck in order to “bring the fretboard closer to the strings” (or lower the string hight). Typical Fender specs are a 1" thick neck ( top of fretboard to bottom of heel) in a 5/8" deep rout. It will be less than 1/32" on each side by the 1st fret and progressively less as you go up the neck as you won't want to change the heel width. Quilted maple top. 5mm at the 12th fret as I measure it with the calipers. Here is a picture of a warmoth conversion neck. Align the bridge with the mounting and string holes. 25. Last edited: Feb 1, 2019. They make a true 24 fret neck with 25-1/2" scale. On the eBay guitar it's square, like a Tele's. 1. Mildew Jones. Does Michael Dolan do multi-scale? I'm not really interested in graphite, as I'm seeking the "traditional" sound and feel of a P or PJ. That would account for the difference. No problem Also I didn't say ANY PREFMIC have fretboard overhang. There are very few necks like that. Squared fretboard overhang or rounded? optofonik Apr 13, 2020 optofonik Squier-holic May 18, 2016 1,313 Somewhere, Wonderful Apr 13, 2020 #1 I don't think I've. Nov 17, 2011 #15 Well, frankly, I have never seen a full-offset neck like yours, but I was hoping I could help. Now just run the whole jig past your flush trim bit. . If you are getting a 24-fret neck and having us build a body to go with it, you will have the option to move the neck pickup back from the neck pocket to compensate for this overhang. This reduces the height of the gap between the top of the body and the bottom of the fretboard where it overhangs at the 22nd fret. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. Eyeball the neck to check for warping. Search titles only By: Search Advanced search…There will be a fretboard overhang of 1. Like i said most Ebay cheapos that i saw had Fender shaped headstocks and don't come with tuners and none had the fretboard overhang. The only problem I'd anticipate about cutting it would be to cut into the truss rod. All the rods I use are hotrod truss rods from Stewmac. 82DeanZ, you are correct that if it is an overhang that it would likely work. The fretboard overhang is very rarely completely flush to the body, to allow for some minor neck pocket depth variance and adjustment. 74K subscribers in the Luthier community. shift the neck to the treble side until the spacing between the outer strings and the fretboard edge are equal. The fit and finish is pretty nice all over, with the neck to body join being particularly well engineered. Continue the pattern up and down the fretboard, naming each chord as you play it, and do the same with an E chord,. 5 string necks: Warmoth 22-fret necks (no fretboard overhang) are direct replacements for Fender 22-fret necks. Good to know. 175 mm). They simply move the bridge position on the body. This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. 25,683. My 2¢. Use the steam to gently loosen up any glue that's holding together the neck and fretboard. Business, Economics, and Finance. Most basses have a rosewood fingerboard or a maple fingerboard. I use a flat iron and a towel to keep excess heat from the soundboard. I don't think I've ever seen a straight fretboard overhang on a fender, certainly not a Strat, but the AllParts baritone neck isn't rounded at the fretboard overhang. Switching from a 20 to. You can do the metric equivelents. Most basses have a rosewood fingerboard or a maple fingerboard. I would leave it, its not uncommon to have a overhang, also cutting 0. Business, Economics, and Finance. I was trying to model it after my RG550 neck that has an overhang for the upper frets. If a lot of wood has to go to make the scale length right, or to make a neat edge- saw the neck horizontally below the binding, creating a fretboard overhang. Remember me Not recommended on shared computers. Tried. 4 string necks: Warmoth 21-fret necks (with fretboard overhang) are direct replacements for standard 20-fret bass. . 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. Also, the heel looks long enough that if I cut. Feb 2, 2001. File the frets back. 75" is very. trock. Tape the two pages together. The joint edges on my Gibson guitars look much like on your ES-175. 5" and the neck is made to fit a Fender guitar it should be fine, however. Personally I wish I had gotten the 20 fret fretboard for my otherwise SUPERB Warmoth P-bass (with J-neck). So, that gives you . All kinds of materials are used for this purpose. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Dual action truss rod adjustment at the headstock &10mm peg holes for modern tuners. After I mark and drill the pickguard mounting holes and mount it, I notice the pickguard is slightly overhanging the neck pocket. The generated Fretboard will be placed with the Bridge center in the origin and along the World X axis, as you would. Back in the day Fender did use a 5/8″ deep neck pocket but they don’t. There are four input modes for overhang. The fretboard overhang sits above the body, but the gap is only . Learn More. Perhaps I am unique but I consider easy access to electronics on my Strat a. . You may want to do this in small increments to avoid going too thin right off the bat. The Baritone Scale Conversion Neck employs an undercut heel design in order to fit these neck pockets. . Either, but for 22 frets the neck has to have an overhang to make room for the last fret. You may have to do this a number of times. There is insufficient adjustment at the bridge to compensate for the reduction of the 12th. New posts New media New media comments New resources New profile posts Latest activity. 75 is more comfortable by far. Rounded heel design with fretboard overhang so it will fit on either a. Oct 29, 2008 #3Post some pictures and measurements of the neck near the heel plus the distance from the fretboard side of the nut to the center of the 12th fret. ;) Thanks, I’m going to look into this. The gap between the neck and body. They are supposed to be 25. Not that it matters, but G&L's necks are built to the end of the fretboard as opposed to the fretboard extension/overhang found on Fender's neck and most Fender-style guitars. I should have put a layer or two of masking tape along my routing guides, to make the neck pocket super tight. I. Also, PRS in general is not. I am building a guitar with a 24 fret fretboard. 5mm pickgaurd is standard 3 ply at around 2. Or, you could use standard nut spacing, and only you'll know that the Low E string has a bit less overhang than the right, which will be imperceptible most likely. The neck has been reset to ensure. I'm not sure if Warmoth still offers this option. (Coming soon! Photos to show fretboard overhangs and the movement of neck pickup routes to compensate for increased fingerboard overhang on 24 fret necks. New posts Search forums. Completely normal. 5" scale. Equal: you specify an overhang for all four locations separately. If you want to see how it looks with 21 frets, you can do an old trick for removing necks on acoustic. . Thankfully, the fretboard overhang covers up my rough work there. + $12 Shipping. Fall Away: Fall away refers to the fretboard extension and building the guitar in such a manner that the fretboard extension's height in relation to the strings is additionally increased from the body joint to the sound hole. to cut a long story short you have to cut 1/4 of an inch off the heel, which works out ok because then you have a little fretboard overhang to cover up anything that doesn't look perfect. Then evaluate the saddles grooves so see if they need. Its a fretboard overhang, totally normal. A 1/8"(3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. Lemon oil for the fretboard, which is a very nice Rosewood. 105”) Heel Pocket: Fender Style (5/8” deep, 2. If you took a Tele neck and glued a piece of fretboard to the end with an additional fret on it, it wouldn't change the relationship between the nut, the 12th fret and the bridge. Trying my best to make something usable. 1) I based it around a Jazzmaster neck pocket position, but with the Jaguar's neck pickup positioned relative to the end of the fretboard-overhang on a 22-fret neck, so the whole body sits about a half-inch 'lower' than the FCS interpretation. Let the tool do the work—you're just guiding it. 5" and the neck is made to fit a Fender guitar it should be fine, however. It does not need to be much but some. Width and radius are very imporant, to the point I won't even look at narrower than 42mm or less than 9. The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Build and Repair: Good fretboard overhang?Are you talking about the gap under the fretboard overhang? It’s where the pickguard (that you don’t have here) goes. But, on necks with 22 or less frets, the neck PU is placed on the octave harmonic. ElliottStrong Supporting Member. Paddle Guitar Neck 24fret 30inch Rosewood Fretboard Long Scale. The fretboard overhangs the neck at this point. #1. Pull the 22nd fret, cut off the fretboard end through the fret slot and see if you like it on your guitar. 919" from the nut to the end of the neck, and 7. The Modern Player neck has no fretboard overhang, so the end of the pocket sits closer to the bridge. Hold the fine-tooth flat file against the side of the fretboard and gently drag the file from the first fret down to the last fret ( Photo 4 ). My other strat doesn't have this gap so I'm curious as. So, we have a 1. Please check the Warmoth website to ensure this neck will for your neck pocket. 22 polished and jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. 11-20-2010, 05:02 PM. It's just *barely* too tight, so the action is *slightly* affected. I like to see about . I've already routed out the pickup cavities based on a template set. 83" at the first fret , . A straightedge along the fretplane falls 2,5 mm below top of bridge and there is a clear change of neck angle at 14th fret. Your best bet is like-for-like - another Starcaster neck. You do need the fretboard overhang like a strat but that's no biggie as well. For the math-impaired: 1. Reactions: chrissh. You may have to do this a number of times. My son and I are building a guitar for him for his High School senior project. Specs: Model: A2. Joined Apr 29, 2003 Posts 2,637 Location Canada-Windsor-Ont. 5 radius Rosewood fretboard approx . If you want to see how it looks with 21 frets, you can do an old trick for removing necks on acoustic. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. you enter a single value and the overhang will be. NO overhang 4. Building my first guitar, I glued the neck 0,5mm too far. . First string fretboard overhang at the nut; First string fretboard overhang at the bridge; Fretboard placement location (you can pick a point where you want your fretboard. . Been looking to switch out the old Rosewood neck on my 2001 MiM standard Strat and this neck would do the trick nicely. my partscasters with overhanging 22 fret boards have about . 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. Hey folks, got a chance to land a nice deal on a 2019 MiM players Strat Pao Ferro neck. Anybody. Be careful to file the metal only, stopping just as the file comes in contact with the finish. Jun 20, 2008. Haven't been much of a Tele person over the years but find myself wanting one now. The addition of having better control over some of the other parameters is nice - adjustable fretboard overhang beyond the 24th fret is handy, as is the string spacing and fretboard edge overhang functions. We need to raise that fretboard up 3/8″, so we reduce our too-deep 1. This. It's going to be a 22 fret neck w/ a 25. I noticed in pictures, the 2019 players neck has the fretboard overhang at the heel. It’s not something everyone can do, like changing pickups or electronics, but a skilled luthier shouldn’t have a problem replacing let’s say a rosewood fingerboard from your Gibson Les Paul guitar. Personally I don't like the look of a fretboard overhang, so I'm a strictly 21 fret guy on Fenders. Rosewood has a warmer, darker tone. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. Starcasters (Squier and Fender) have 22-fret necks with no overhang (that is, the 22nd fret is on the fretboard proper, not on an overhang off the end - see top pic below). Search titles only By: Search Advanced search…Having to remove the neck to get the scratchplate off is a bloody nuisance Why can't they just make the neck as long as the fretboard?B. Regarding the bridge, the bridge designs you have listed will all have to be recessed into the body, or you can build some angle into your new neck heel to pitch the strings at a higher. The former offers possibilities, the latter does not. Flatten Fretboard – Use this option to create a flat, classical style of fretboard. Post Oct 04, 2020 #125 2020-10-05T03:52. prorecordingworkshop wrote:. Using an overhang also means replacement parts remain compatible, e. Only minimal adjustment is needed as in any neck change. I want to make a 22 fret neck with a tele heal and have a spoke style truss rod. Screw holes lined up pretty well. To maintain comfortable playability, it’s advisable to select a replacement neck with a fretboard radius that matches the original neck or is compatible with your playing style. The screws are going right through the body, flush with the backplate and bottom. As a plus,. Preheat the iron and make sure it's on the steam setting. It fits into Strats and Jazzmasters and converts the scale to a Gibson scale. I didn't. It almost has to be pointed out to be noticed. See pic. Not at all cheap, but well worth it IMO. Warmoth can be pricey. I just don't want to screw things up any worse. The fingerboard, or fretboard, is the face of the neck where your fingers work their bass playing magic. Staten Island NYC. Their only non-22 fret guitars are the new Jazzmaster-styled. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. 736The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. The correct neck for my kit has approximately 7/16" of fretboard overhang. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangIf the fretboard overhang was tight, you'd risk cracking a stiff pickguard, or possibly even break off that last fret if you pulled up too hard, and tightening the neck to the body can actually put stress here. Their only non-22 fret guitars are the new Jazzmaster-styled. Make template of pocket, scribe to bottom of neck -keeping in mind range where the scale length works w/saddle adjustments. James Collins Guest. The fretboard overhang is very lazy bass building IMO. Jun 2, 2023. Or just shimmy the nut over towards the high E to even. 6. Thankfully, the fretboard overhang covers up my rough work there. Actually, any 24" Mustang neck will work with the Warmoth 7/8 body. Your example doesn't look well-crafted, but I don't know if that's typical for Epiphone. That's the purpose of the overhang, so any 21 or 22 fret neck with the overhang will fit any body without having to change the neck pocket or bridge placement. I just sanded the underside of the fretboard overhang until it cleared the pickguard when the neck is fully bolted down. 81" at the first fret , . Either the heel of the neck get trimmed down or the pocket in the body has to be expanded. Fender neck pocket deminsions 3" x 2 3/16" x 5/8" deep. Location. 10. Fretboard overhang doesn't mean the bridge is placed differently on the body. My Warmoth pro neck fit just perfect. #1. . 75'' (thats a good thickness for a neck heel), and the. Sand the entire length of the fretboard with the same motions, making sure to keep your radius even across the length of the frets. Hard to find in this condition. I ran into a snag with the control plate. Somehow the neck shifted in the pocket and I didn't notice it due to the fretboard overhang. Jazzmaster® Replacement Neck . The gap between the neck and body might be a little weird, but if the four screw holes match up, you’re probably fine. For example, as depicted in bar 1 of Example 4, take an open-A chord, move the shape up one fret for a B b chord, one more fret for a B chord, and so on. Most 22-fret Fender necks have the 22nd fret on an overhang. 875” total length, 5” radius heel curve)I would cut the underside of the fretboard overhang. I. 481” maximum heel width, 3. So the bridge will have to move further away from the neck to maintain the scale length, by half the distance of fret 21 to fret 22. With these fretboard overhangs it's also important that you use pickguards that are standard Fender thickness. I put on a white pickguard (rather, forced it on, which caused me to chip the fretboard overhang) and had a 5-way switch and Bill Lawrence pickups installed. The serial is stamped on the back of the neck however. 720". With these fretboard overhangs it's also important that you use pickguards that are standard Fender thickness. I ran into a snag with the control plate. Download Article. To me this is significantly more comfortable because my fretting hand sits closer to the right side of the fretboard, meaning right in the middle instead of on the left. I'm planning on ordering a 24. May 18, 2016. Jan 7, 2021 #2 cfreddy813 TDPRI Member. Platinum Blonde. Lonestar Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fingerboard overhang (21 fret version is compatible with Warmoth parts) Nashville Tele® - 22 fret neck with no fingerboard overhang. As on the 22-fret Am Pro jazzmaster, Am Performer, and Player. 75" Scale conversion neck but I can't find anything about the size of the fretboard overhang, which could be an issue for me. 5mm. STEP TWO: Cigar Box Guitar Neck-build Details: Use hardwood. May 25, 2018 #14. 75" neck, you MUST use the Warmoth. The result is a 0,5mm overhang of the fretboard on the neck at the 22nd fret. 090 thick. On the Tele installation was very easy. janeray1940 Active member. CryptoThe Harmony came to me almost unplayable. A normal Jazzmaster his rounded, like a Strat's. It's the yellow one. Starcasters (Squier and Fender) have 22-fret necks with no overhang (that is, the 22nd fret is on the fretboard proper, not on an overhang off the end - see top pic below). 5 radius fretboard approx . Here's the only Ebay cheapo that I found that was similar Nov 4, 2023 #29. It is now ugly, but playable. Heel dimensions of the neck are 56mm wide, and ~3mm thick under the fretboard overhang. 35mm (0. also, will i really need to make the bridge adjustment, considering warmoth uses fretboard overhang instead of extending the neck? Dec 27, 2007 #20. 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. "Epiphone" is an important detail here as they're gonna have a bolt-on neck where a standard. the reason gibson style guitars have neck angle is because the birdge is higher, and since the bridge saddles are higher than the nut, the note made by the frist fret and the 13th fret would be different, basically the action would be higher towards the high end of the neck, and the action would be lower towards the nut. 09375. My Warmoth J pickguard is held in place just by the fretboard overhang, the control plate and the neck PU. Cagey Senior member. A Warmoth is based on vintage Fender specs and a 21 fret neck, a 22 fret version has a fretboard overhang. Measurements are ONLY to the e’ (High e) string. THere ya go Yon - View attachment 959646 View attachment 959647 The pictures are pretty terrible, but you get the idea anyhow It's a 24" scale 21 fret neck with a spoke-wheel truss rod adjuster mounted at the heel. Just got this 2nd hand omen 7, was a bargain, but is it normal for there to be a gap between the fretboard and body? Or have i been had? ReplyThat overhang of the the rosewood to allow for a 22nd fret also allows enough space for the pickguard to slide under it. That neck-heel mark is a little strange, who knows - maybe somebody shaved off the fretboard overhang at some point. 175 mm). Switching from a 20 to 21 fret neck usually requires no modification to the bass. Prefer 22 frets and rosewood on my fretboard, I grew up and learned playing on 25. Before I order the neck and end up with a headache in the shop trying to make this work, is this a possibility?I've done this exactly once, Les Paul Custom just like you. The pickguard would hold the heel at an angle in the pocket. This body is routed for a G&L neck. As a result, the fretboard will slightly overhang the sides of the neck heel in the upper fret areas. org Regular. . Tweedledee. Feb 2, 2001. If I keep this kit I'll have to glue a scrap of "mahogany" under the area of the fretboard where it's just hanging out there. fingerboard with 22 frets, smooth and high density. this guitar neck is compatible for fender st-style electric guitar neck replacement. Builder: Valenti Basses. Fretboard overhang is when a fretboard design goes over the body slightly so the neck joint can be closer to the neck, it is typically used on guitar bodies that were. But, on necks with 22 or less frets, the neck PU is placed on the octave harmonic. I did not realize the fretboard overhang prevents installing/removing an assembled pickguard unless the neck is substantially loosened. or could just be the. Staten Island NYC. that 1/4 is due to an overhang of fret board over where the neck joins the heel pocket. fretboard overhang = 2 mm (equal) calculation method = 12 (equal root 2) number of frets = 15. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. It's designed for those who are going without a pickguard and don't want a visible gap under the fretboard overhang. These are the 4 guitars that don't quite individually fit my criteria. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. When Scale changes, The frets become closer together or farther apart. If the neck isn’t fitted correctly, the guitar won’t be able to play. bettyseldest said: On the stock telecaster neck the 22nd fret sits on the fretboard overhang, so the neck sits in the same pocket as a 21 fret neck. Do I: a) Shim the neck somehow b) File away the pickguard under the overhang (no idea the best way to do this) c) File. The body is a mighty mite and has a deeper than standard neck pocket. 5 scale length, but it is longer than my fender neck (at the heel?) and I’m concerned about the alignment to the bridge if I insert it into the body. On a 4 string body, I have a hard enough time reaching the 21st fret overhang. It fits into Strats and Jazzmasters and converts the scale to a Gibson scale. 090", although there's certainly no. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangMarty, my neck is 1" (25. Should work ok. Teles have squared ends and wider necks than strats, while strats have curved, rounded. In my opinion, the Jazz is also a better sounding and better looking bass as well. You could take down the entire fret end with files or even just coarse sandpaper while you take. . All Forums - Member Builds - Tech AreaIt doesn't look like Warmoth/Allparts/etc. if the Tele's neck pickup is mounted to the body it will be a bear to remove the pickguard to adjust the pickup unless you increase the size of the neck cutout on the pickguard because of the overhang at the end of the fretboard. Align the bridge with the mounting and string holes. Paul Gilbert. I have the current Squier Bullet which has the thinnest Strat body. 22 medium jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. 2. Because I wanted to keep the option of a fully hollow version in future, the ABR-1 seemed like a good choice - I like the way they can energise a carved top. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Frets: 21 Stainless Steel with a fretboard overhang. String width at the nut looks to be about 5" (127mm) String width at bridge looks to be about 180mm (7. Most guitars these days fall somewhere between 12 and 17 inch radii. 720 Mod. This is the only SC13 I. Vibrato bridges. There are four input modes for overhang. It has 21 frets, but it looks to be all in the fretboard overhang and might fit on a 20-fret body. Contact me if you want something specific, otherwise I'll give you a heel adjust spokewheel or hex nut rod. I was trying to model it after my RG550 neck that has an overhang for the upper frets. or not. The GSR205 actually is a bit too long of a fretboard, but it appears that there's a bit of an overhang, so if I trim it enough, I'll have enough room to stick a pickup at the 24th fret position. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. 35mm (0. A fret leveling file is also good for this job; I just happen to prefer the finer cut of. The addition of having better control over some of the other parameters is nice - adjustable fretboard overhang beyond the 24th fret is handy, as is the string spacing and fretboard edge overhang functions. Dec 25, 2015 #5. Jan 14, 2012 #7. Rosewood has a warmer, darker tone. Actually never thought of the fact I was holding a guitar, it disappeared from my thoughts and I was immersed in the playing. - Pickup mounting may not work. I tried to put a neck on it already however, The neck is just slightly off at the bottom left portion of the heel and slightly crooked. Reactions: cip 123. Compatibility Issues. Up-bow when its unstrung is also a little strange, but its how it plays when strung that matters. Depending how the neck is constructed some part of the fretboard overhangs the body. #14 · Mar 7, 2017. A 1/8"(3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. On 24 fret necks it has to be moved back toward the bridge some (taking it off. Avoid spot heating in just one place. I've been building the DM-1F and I'm concerned the gap between the over hang of the fretboard at the neck joint and the body of the guitar is too large. 5 radius Rosewood fretboard approx .